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Slashdot Launches Re-Design

CmdrTaco posted about 4 years ago | from the lookit-all-that-shiny dept.

Slashdot.org 2254

Today we are pleased to announce the launch of the third major re-design in our 13.5 year history, and I don't think it looks half bad. The new theme represents a serious gutting of the underlying HTML and CSS, as well as all-new graphics. There will be many design wiggles, bug squashes, and compatibility glitches that survived testing, so bear with us for a bit. Please direct your bug reports and feedback (good and bad!) to Garrett Woodworth who is currently in charge of such things. Thanks to him, Wes, Vlad, Dean, Phil and Tim, who have each worked hard to get this out the door. Juggling the needs of users, editors, and various business functions is a hard job, and you guys did good.

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This is slashdot? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003164)

I was sure there'd be ponies in the new design.

Horrible. (5, Insightful)

Adambomb (118938) | about 4 years ago | (#35003166)

wayyyyy too much white space and low-contrast text on white.

Re:Horrible. (2, Informative)

rrossman2 (844318) | about 4 years ago | (#35003188)

Hey, all I care is copy/paste in Chrome seems to actually work!

Not half bad! (4, Informative)

MoonBuggy (611105) | about 4 years ago | (#35003284)

Yep, it seems the the two major long-standing problems (broken comment expansion in idle and no pasting in Chrome/Safari) are fixed, but now it doesn't look like there's any indication of the difference between a long thread and a single comment. Visually I like it a lot, and the fixes were much needed - I'd call it a big improvement, but it definitely needs some top-level representation of the threading to handle the number of comments Slashdot stories tend to provoke.

Re:Horrible. (2, Interesting)

jshackney (99735) | about 4 years ago | (#35003304)

Actually, I like it. Feels clean.

It never dawned on me that my ^c, ^v problem was with Slashdot. Just thought it was a Chrome/Windows bug.

Re:Horrible. (1)

somersault (912633) | about 4 years ago | (#35003326)

Wut? It always worked for me before.

On another note: Somersault likes this.

Re:Horrible. (4, Insightful)

phizi0n (1237812) | about 4 years ago | (#35003242)

I agree, I like the shadows but there's way too much white!

Re:Horrible. (5, Insightful)

EvanED (569694) | about 4 years ago | (#35003330)

It's also too hard to tell the indentation level of comments, and the text box on the "edit comment" page is too narrow.

The horror! (1)

sznupi (719324) | about 4 years ago | (#35003256)

Well, seriously, it might end good / too early to tell (with us being currently simply used to the old way of doing things)

But performance could be better / scrolling doesn't seem too fluid in current browsers... (on Atom-grade machine; so how could it be on smartphones / tablets / etc.?)

Re:Horrible. (4, Insightful)

zach_the_lizard (1317619) | about 4 years ago | (#35003324)

This. Plus still no Unicode support.

Re:Horrible. (2)

amRadioHed (463061) | about 4 years ago | (#35003370)

What's up with the no Unicode still? That's a disappointment.

New design == FAIL (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003168)

The new design sucks. Stop pushing more and more web 2.0 shit that does nothing but make the site harder to use and slower. Go fucking die in a fire Taco.

Oh and I love crappy error messages as:

There was an unknown error in the submission.


Digging it! (2)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003170)

Nice job on the redesign

Not bad (4, Insightful)

Sandman1971 (516283) | about 4 years ago | (#35003172)

It'll take some getting used to, but I don't mind the new design. Change != bad

The slashdot logo in the corner... (4, Funny)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about 4 years ago | (#35003178)

Why is it so much smaller now than before? Are you hoping we'll think we are reading a different site?

Unicode? (4, Insightful)

thenickdude (1481249) | about 4 years ago | (#35003180)

How about Unicode, do you support that yet?

Re:Unicode? (5, Insightful)

Desler (1608317) | about 4 years ago | (#35003216)

Of course not. Doing useful things like adding Unicode support is apparently less important than adding more Web 2.0 junk to the site.

Re:Unicode? (2)

ebuck (585470) | about 4 years ago | (#35003300)

Of course not. Doing useful things like adding Unicode support is apparently less important than adding more Web 2.0 junk to the site.

Eventually they will discover that Unicode is part of "Web 2.0". It's even supported in URLs now!

Re:Unicode? (1)

MyLongNickName (822545) | about 4 years ago | (#35003332)

And I am amazed that in a large group of "nerds" that people will ask a question and bitc about something instead of taking 15 seconds to test if for themselves

Re:Unicode? (2)

MyLongNickName (822545) | about 4 years ago | (#35003276)


Primero? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003184)

Premero commento?


Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003192)

I HATE THOSE MARGINS, even more than the rounded and gradient bar shades on stories that was introduced years ago!

R.I.P. Marginless 1998-era design :(

Broken in Safari (2)

customizedmischief (692916) | about 4 years ago | (#35003196)

In Safari on my Mac, the lefthand navigation covers part of the left side of the center pane. Please fix, and then I'm sure I'll learn to tolerate it :)

Re:Broken in Safari (1)

customizedmischief (692916) | about 4 years ago | (#35003264)

Please fix

That was fast!

Re:Broken in Safari (1)

customizedmischief (692916) | about 4 years ago | (#35003398)

Please fix

That was fast!

I'm dumb. Indented stuff doesn't look broken because all that is getting covered is whitespace. It actually wasn't fixed while I was in the middle of complaining.

what the.... (1)

nitehawk214 (222219) | about 4 years ago | (#35003198)

... heck happened? At least it rendered good in firefox on a powerful computer, hopefully it doesn't crap out on my phone or my slower laptop

A little too white (2, Insightful)

rfernand79 (643913) | about 4 years ago | (#35003200)

Good job! It's a little heavy on white space, but not too bad..

Re:A little too white (1)

Doug Neal (195160) | about 4 years ago | (#35003390)

Agreed. Definitely many steps in the right direction. The relative proportions of the gaps and the fonts, and their alignments, sit awkwardly in some places. Reducing some of the gaps between elements would definitely be an improvement.

Ugly (1)

Stormscape (998750) | about 4 years ago | (#35003202)

Too much Web 2.0 garbage, I want the old design back.

Stupid fixed-position crap (5, Informative)

Osty (16825) | about 4 years ago | (#35003206)

And Slashdot has now gotten on the "waste your screen space with bullshit" fixed-position bandwagon. Luckily this is easily solved. Install Stylish and add the following to a new user style:

@-moz-document domain("slashdot.org")

position: absolute !important;

position: absolute !important;


Now the sidebar/header scroll with the page, rather than remaining fixed in place.

Re:Stupid fixed-position crap (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003290)

doesn't that use exactly the same amount of space, but make the menu inaccessiblw without scrolling back to the top?

Why are you so terrified by change?

Re:Stupid fixed-position crap (2)

Osty (16825) | about 4 years ago | (#35003352)

Nope. It reclaims the vertical header space. Scrolling the menu along with it is just a bonus. I don't need you goddamn menu scrolling with me as I read. If I need to access something from the menu, I'll go back to the top of the page.

Re:Stupid fixed-position crap (1)

kabloom (755503) | about 4 years ago | (#35003376)

Depends what you call "space". He thinks of space as screen space. If it stays on his screen at all times, and he doesn't want it there, it's a waste of space. You're saying it doesn't save any page space to make the position absolute (and you're right, it doesn't). But once he scrolls, the absolutely positioned menu doesn't waste screen space anymore, since it's not on screen.

Re:Stupid fixed-position crap (5, Informative)

RazorKitten (948278) | about 4 years ago | (#35003340)

Yea, what's worse is on my netbook the static bits on the left means I can't actually see everything there due to the screen size. ~RK

slashcode (1)

kad77 (805601) | about 4 years ago | (#35003210)

Has the underlying slashcode base been made more shiny? "There was an unknown error in the submission." ???

Doesn't work in Chrome/Iron ... .... but works in IE 8 ... :(

crap (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003212)

Looks like crap. Fonts are too small. I hate change.

Looks great on my iPad (1)

high_rolla (1068540) | about 4 years ago | (#35003214)

Looks much better on my iPad. Well done guys

Re:Looks great on my iPad (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003380)

i still can't move the comment slider. boooo!

Broken on Chrome (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003218)

How does a website catering to nerds prioritize IE development over that of Chrome? WTF?

Re:Broken on Chrome (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003344)

Nevermind, I figured it out. It's not "broken." If your username is long, it causes the left navigation divide to stretch and obstruct the main UI.

And it probably affects all Webkit browsers.

new layout (0)

FST (766202) | about 4 years ago | (#35003220)

Everybody who wants to complain about the new layout can post it as a reply here, so to help identify people whose philosophy is "whine first, test later" and ignore their QQing.


Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003222)

There is no way that people are going to like this. Too much tech news....

Review of New Slashdot (5, Funny)

Gothmolly (148874) | about 4 years ago | (#35003224)

No new content.. More whitespace than before. Lame.

Re:Review of New Slashdot (1)

Desler (1608317) | about 4 years ago | (#35003274)

And still no Unicode support...

Thanks! (1)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | about 4 years ago | (#35003226)

Looks much better on my iPhone!

Thanks for the redesign! (5, Insightful)

Bin_jammin (684517) | about 4 years ago | (#35003228)

My already overtaxed old Powerbook can't handle the new site's layout, and it looks like I'll have to either avoid Slashdot, one of my daily religious reads for over a decade, or buy a new piece of equipment just to read a text format site. Seriously? It's text, wtf was so important that it's got to be redone to look fancy? Why not some flash animation while you're at it? Can we switch to an html view? I'm glad you felt the need to flash the place up, but this is pretty stupid.

Re:Thanks for the redesign! (2)

LostCluster (625375) | about 4 years ago | (#35003358)

There seems to be a lot of AJAX-y special effects going on where what used to be a new page is now a pop-out form for replies and such. Yep, requires a heavier web browser and such. Client-sever computing is now relying heavier on the client.

Re:Thanks for the redesign! (4, Insightful)

PakProtector (115173) | about 4 years ago | (#35003392)

Yeah. I've been reading /. for more than a decade, and the site's visual design has gotten worse and worse with each attempt to "fix" it.

It ain't broke, you dumb sacks of shit -- don't fix it!

Snazzy! (1)

Fiddlingfrog (718529) | about 4 years ago | (#35003230)

So far I like what I see.

You're joking. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003232)

You're joking, right?

Great! (1)

betso.net (950024) | about 4 years ago | (#35003234)

Very nice design! Thank you to all who contributed getting /. a modern look! :)

Re:Great! (1)

Desler (1608317) | about 4 years ago | (#35003312)

Wouldn't a "modern" look involve supporting Unicode? Something that has been a standard for some 20 years?

My eyes keep getting older (1)

DreadfulGrape (398188) | about 4 years ago | (#35003236)

but the text on /. keeps getting smaller.

Actually it looks pretty good. Nice and clean. And I can always hit Command + to make it bigger.

Re:My eyes keep getting older (1)

LostCluster (625375) | about 4 years ago | (#35003298)

This is isn't just the Slashdot redesign as it's also the growth in pixel density over time. We're not looking at many 800x600 monitors these days.

Firefox not filling the login fields (1)

schwit1 (797399) | about 4 years ago | (#35003238)

It worked in the previous version.

Re:Firefox not filling the login fields (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003366)

Maybe the field values are different? Did you even TRY to re-input them and re-save?
Just sayin' cause I did and everything saved.

Re:Firefox not filling the login fields (1)

LostCluster (625375) | about 4 years ago | (#35003372)

Try filling them in yourself. They may have changed field variable names and Firefox will pick up soon enough.

The boxes on the right side are a bit too large... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003240)

but other than that it seems to be fine.

Arrg. Change! (1)

radicalpi (1407259) | about 4 years ago | (#35003246)

Change, bad...grumble grumble grumble...

Editors? (-1, Troll)

oldhack (1037484) | about 4 years ago | (#35003248)

When do they start?

Tested in Firefox? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003250)

So, I'm using Firefox 3.6.13 and the stuff on the right covers stuff that should be showing in the middle. In Safari, it doesn't look half bad.

fixed Idle (kinda) (1)

corbettw (214229) | about 4 years ago | (#35003252)

At least Idle now looks the same as the rest of the site. That alone is a huge improvement (and will mean I'll take it off "hidden" status from my frontpage).

Though I have to say, I'd gotten used to the AJAX widget in the upper-left corner to control loading more posts. Having that locked at the top of the page isn't nearly as convenient.

Wow.. (1)

AgentX24 (797752) | about 4 years ago | (#35003254)

Wow, for once a redesign that isn't horrible and doesn't automatically make me want to go back! The javascript seems faster (finally) and the whole thing looks smoother, and into the 21st century. I wonder if unicode is supported yet. €

Story images (1)

T-Bone-T (1048702) | about 4 years ago | (#35003258)

Are images with the stories supposed to overlap text and otherwise leave the apparent color boundaries?

Netbook users sad. (1)

maliamnon (1848524) | about 4 years ago | (#35003260)

Could need adjusting on my part, but it seems too wide to fit on my netbook...

Look nice! (1)

MrJones (4691) | about 4 years ago | (#35003266)

After all those years looking at the same design, its a long way from that index.pl site in 90's
BTW, the old design was good too ;)

Kudos on the upgrade. Looks good. (1)

Hazee Daze (998624) | about 4 years ago | (#35003268)

I like it--looks clean and professional to me. Kudos.

Nice -n- Clean (1)

koan (80826) | about 4 years ago | (#35003270)

I like it.

Stupid Floating Headers (5, Insightful)

dangthill (944791) | about 4 years ago | (#35003272)

What is the obsession with obnoxious floating headers that always stay at the top of the screen? Whatever utility they provide is outweighed by the fact that it screws up the paging behavior when you hit the spacebar to scroll. It's annoying to have the bottom two lines of text scroll behind the floating bar--not everyone reads to the absolute very, very bottom before hitting space.

It's alright (1)

Lanteran (1883836) | about 4 years ago | (#35003280)

It's OK, but I need to reconfigure something. Annoyingly, there's light blue on white text for my comment box (due to my KDE theme I assume), plus it still doesn't render completely right in opera. Other than those annoyances, looks like it could be quite useful.

If you're creeping along.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003292)

...yes, you can see some changes. But they're nice changes that leave the familiar intact. I like it.

Ehhhh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003296)

Comment score selection is buggy as fuck on Firefox. The only one it lines up on is -1.

why? (1)

denshao2 (1515775) | about 4 years ago | (#35003306)

It's different, but it's not better.

I dislike change (1)

matty619 (630957) | about 4 years ago | (#35003308)

It makes me feel old. But this could work. Pretty fresh.


Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003310)

What a bunch of amature crap. What's with the box on the left? Can't see crap besides the crap!

I like it. (1)

emannigol (786089) | about 4 years ago | (#35003316)

Within minutes I found myself using site features I'd never been tempted to use before. You've obviously done something right.

this sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003318)

It doesn't look half bad, it looks all bad.

shiny doesn't equal better (1)

TorturedExistance (683385) | about 4 years ago | (#35003320)

I'm running Firefox 3.6.13 with adblockplus, flashblock, and noscript, with only slashdot.org and fsdn.org allowed, all other domains blocked.
In short, it looks shiny but rather buggy. The left side of the frame is all clipped, missing one or two letters per word.

Also, it now runs like a drunken cow - scrolling is jerky and page loading takes noticeably longer. Revert it, IMO.

Feedback link (2)

Amorymeltzer (1213818) | about 4 years ago | (#35003322)

The absolute first thing I noticed was the prominence of the feedback link. Slashdot was unique in being one of the only major sites without an easy-to-find link to give feedback on the site. More than anything, that was very well needed. Thank you.

Impressed (5, Funny)

Admiral Lazzurs (96382) | about 4 years ago | (#35003328)

I have to say I have always generally been impressed with the /. redesigns and this is no exception. Well done team, thanks again not just for a great site but for continuing to make it look and work better for all the users.


intellitech (1912116) | about 4 years ago | (#35003334)

Chrome copy/paste works again!

How about a new search function? (3, Insightful)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about 4 years ago | (#35003336)

Could we get a search function for slashdot that actually works, too? I would have been happy to keep the old design but have a search function here that was at least as good as infoseek was back in 1998. Some of us recall a short period a while ago when you actually allowed us to just use google to search slashdot, which was a huge improvement over the slashdot search function that came before and after that.

Whoa!!! (0)

angus77 (1520151) | about 4 years ago | (#35003338)

Holy crap! I was here only a couple hours ago. I thought I'd typed in the wrong url by mistake!

Feels like the old days... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003342)

I for one loved the days of framed pages. This new redesign is really a step in a direction, back to the good ol' days of framed geocities pages. I love a persistent section of my screen real estate dedicated to features I never use. Good work slashdot! Slowly bringing back 1996, but in a new, hip web 2.0 framed header style.

captcha: flattery

Time will tell I guess (1)

CrackerJackz (152930) | about 4 years ago | (#35003346)

It looks like some of the formatting problems with the CSS and replying to threads have been squashed, however it seems to be utterly broken on my Blackberry's built in browser, doesn't seem to scale down width-wise very well.

Achievement missing. (1)

Tibia1 (1615959) | about 4 years ago | (#35003348)

I just clicked on my achievement (5 point comment) and it said Message 27834164 not found. Just wondering if this was due to the change. Also, sometimes the footers get cut off, so I couldn't see every link at the bottom on the left, and on the right it said: 201, Geeknet (rather than 2011). These things don't actually matter at all but... yeah.

Replies work! (1)

bbqsrc (1441981) | about 4 years ago | (#35003350)

The redesign is very VERY good. Same style, but actually works properly now! For instance, I did this reply in 10 seconds instead of 2 minutes. Thumbs up guys.

Wish text size larger (1)

billyswong (1858858) | about 4 years ago | (#35003354)

Is it my delusion or the font size is really smaller than in the past? Maybe the fault of those white space...

Looks pretty bad here. (5, Interesting)

John Hasler (414242) | about 4 years ago | (#35003356)

Is shaving off the left edge of every article part of the plan, or just a bonus?

Issues with message finding (3, Informative)

unity100 (970058) | about 4 years ago | (#35003360)

after getting bitchslapped by sudden release of the new interface, i can say that it causes us to have to one by one click and open all comments in a thread when we attempt to go to a post someone replied to our post, through the message facility.

ie you go to your m essages -> click on the Y at the link that says user x postedm message y in response to your post, you end up at the initial post of that particular thread (yours o r others) and you have to open all the comments through the last post the user made in reply to

also, i think you are not able to reply to a last post in a long thread too. i keep replying to some reply who someone put in response to mine, but my reply goes to the parent post - my post.

posting speed test (1)

Bruha (412869) | about 4 years ago | (#35003362)

Dunno sometimes it takes 30 seconds for the preview to switch to post.. so we'll see

First impression (4, Interesting)

jasno (124830) | about 4 years ago | (#35003364)

- Too much whitespace.
- Posts and comments need better separation(green line or something)
- Noticeably slower in Firefox 3.6.13 on my Core 2 Duo 1.667GHz laptop w/ 3GB RAM(minecraft is running in the background though).
- Comment text box is way too small.

I think the overall direction is good though - I hated the last layout and had turned a lot of the fancy stuff off.

It does look half bad (3, Informative)

Edmund Blackadder (559735) | about 4 years ago | (#35003374)

The menu on the top left side cuts off half an inch of text of articles and comments. I am on Ubuntu and Firefox, the latest released versions of both. I am shocked that Slashdot of all websites did not test Ubuntu and Firefox.

Otherwise, it looks pretty good, I have to admit.

Eh... (2)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003378)

I, for one, prefer to go up and down a page bu using Page Up and Page Down. For this reason, I generally despise any toolbar/style bar/whatever the hell you want to call it that refuses to stay at the top of the page where it belongs. I'm rather annoyed with the new design, too. I prefer simplicity to fancy graphics; it seems to me that this is simply unnecessary.

doesn't even WORK for me :( (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 years ago | (#35003384)

I can no longer see any comments beneath the top level ones. Clicking on sub comments just displays a digit like "2" and nothing else shows up.

WTF? All was working well earlier. Is it some AC thing? I don't have a registered account, I've always just browsed anonymously.

But it looks like I'll have to stop reading slashdot if I can't actually see the comments anymore.

Do not like it one bit (1)

warp_kez (711090) | about 4 years ago | (#35003386)

Not all content loads, requires repeated hits of refresh. Why take the Microsoft approach to fix everything not broken when it worked exceptionally well to begin with?

EDIT: Just to be able to post this comment, I needed to preview it which timed out in Firefox with "Server not found".

Really ... it seems to be true (1)

unity100 (970058) | about 4 years ago | (#35003388)

we coders/programmers really dont have a knack for good design.

actually i improved myself a lot over the years though.

it's very slick (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | about 4 years ago | (#35003394)

visually, it is supreme. good job

functionally, little nits

using google chrome, if i open a story, there's some biolerplate under the story summery, stuff like "Share This Story" "This story has..." etc., and some graphics

even in widened ridiculously, the first 10-20px of this boilerplate is getting shuffled the left column

also, the way some comments are being rolled up into a nested structure... i don't know, i think some top level comments are being stuck under other top level comments they bear no relation too. unless people are making completely unrelated comments

Finally! (4, Funny)

stox (131684) | about 4 years ago | (#35003396)

I can get a tan while sitting in front of my monitor.

Not bad...definitely faster (1)

grapeape (137008) | about 4 years ago | (#35003400)

I like the simplicity...and it even seems tablet friendly so far. It appears to resize and render well on the ipad...some overlap issues on my android tablet but its still usable.

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